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Hot Press - Davey's Voyage - May 17 2004
With the small but perfectly formed Come Over EP, Cathy Davey is finally ready to face the world.
Who the hell, you may be forgiven for wondering, is Cathy Davey? When her name cropped up in January on the list of the year’s most promising new Irish acts, she was as mysterious as the majority of others were familiar. There had been no slogging around the Dublin circuit, no self-financed releases, no hanging out with the in crowd. Instead there was heavy weight management and talk of a record company bidding war but precious little in the way of actual music. Until now, that is. Davey has made her entrance with the small but perfectly formed Come Over EP, four tracks that go some way to cementing her reputation.
As will become apparent during the course of our conversation, Cathy had a very clear idea of how she wanted to play things right from the off.
“What I needed when I signed was not to be forced into being ready to do my album. I needed time to find the right musicians and know what I was doing. That was what I got and it was really important. I was working solidly up to the point when I was ready to do the album, then that took three months to make. We finished it in January but there’s still the mastering and artwork to go.”
Was there much of a musical journey from the demos to the album? “It’s basically the same except played a lot better”, she laughs. “It makes a difference having professional musicians; I was just recording at home. I love the naive sound that comes from those recordings – that’s my sound and I’ve definitely retained that. But I appreciate the different personalities that have been brought in as well.”
If that all makes the process of Cathy’s music sound very insular, well then it is.
“My way of developing was just being on my own,” she explains, “that’s what I enjoyed most – writing and playing on my own and that’s the highlight. This is very sad sounding but that is the best part of my day.”
Almost uniquely, she never played live until a while after she’d been signed. “I didn’t gig and perform because I couldn’t get the sound that I wanted on my own and I couldn’t pay the musicians. I didn’t want to be in a band, I wanted to be solo. All these different elements mean that you have to have a bit of money behind you. I’ve done three tours now, which have been great and have really got me out of my shell and I’m enjoying it.”
Didn’t that then put an extra pressure on the performance, given that by that point those in the know were already talking her up?
“No, because they have been very low key. The second one was with David Kitt and they were a lovely crowd, really appreciative of music. We’ve just sort of crept in. I didn’t want anyone to know that ‘Cathy Davey’s going on tour’.” She laughs again. “Actually, no-one knew who I was so it was relatively easy.”
The image of an artist working away in her own little world is also enhanced by her claim that she never really listens to any other music.
“I don’t think about it so much that I don’t listen to stuff because I don’t want to be influenced but I don’t naturally gravitate to other people’s music. When I’m at home I’d rather write and if I want a break I’ll watch TV. I’m more of a TV addict than anything else, that’s my way of relaxation. I’ve never had a stereo either but I’m getting one soon.”
So, is what we’re about to hear 100% Cathy Davey and nothing else?
“Well I’m sure influences sneak in, you can’t walk out of your house without being bombarded by music. Pop music is unfortunately everywhere and that’ll get you. I have friends who are into really interesting music that I listen to when I go round theirs. There are people I listen to but once in a blue moon, I’ve never worn out a CD or anything like that.”
We’re guessing then that her lyrics come from a similar, highly personal place. “They do,” she confirms. “I’m guessing that everyone writes from their own experiences unless you’re working on a fictional level. I’d love to be able to do that, I’ve tried it. There are elements of glamorising things up to make them a bit more poignant but they are all based on my life experiences.”
They can be pretty straightforward too, especially the blatant sexuality of ‘Come Over’ itself.
“I like directness, I like simplicity,” she says. “I appreciate people who are poetic and give metaphors to make things a bit harder for the listener. I like the craft of writing but I also like simplicity and the accessibility that that brings.” Is that how she approaches life? “Pretty much, I’m a bit of a fatalist as well so things are pretty cut and dried with me.”
Given that she had been so close to the songs, was it a battle to stay true to their original spirit when she moved into the world of recording studios and session musicians.
“I always wanted to keep it to the way it was but the trouble with that is you sound like a singer songwriter who’s got a band in for the sake of it. You have to make space for everyone else and I enjoyed that, it was very exciting. If you’re getting these musicians in there’s no point making them do what you’d do. I play piano and guitar myself but I have another piano player who’s ten times better than me and she’ll make it much more beautiful but the basic ideas were there and we’d try to get the life from those. I wanted a very raw album, I didn’t want too much going on.”
On the results so far, it’s something she’s achieved. There’s not a note out of place on Come Over as it powers along with an almost punk rock energy, tempered by a taut acoustic based arrangement.
“Taut..” she muses. “That’s a good word for it. I try not to overdo anything. Why flower it up if you don’t have to.”
The Come Over EP is out now on Regal.
Phil Udell

Hot Press - My 2004 - Cathy Davey - Dec. 21 2004
Hero of 2004 I discovered Paul McCartney’s solo albums this year, and now he’s up there with Tom Waits for me. Two songs of his, ‘Junk’ and ‘Ram’ make me swoon. Genius.
Villain of 2004 Doesn’t take an Einstein to figure that one out!
Best personal moment The day I found out I was playing support on the Supergrass and Graham Coxon tours.
Best movie The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, an old Herzog film& but new to me. A true story that made me change a little bit.
Best record Ah Ha Shake Hearbreak, Kings Of Leon, no interest in them until they released “bucket” and showed us all what a tune was...
Best book Punk rocker Billy Childish’s book My Fault. He overcame a terrible childhood to become a poet, artist, musician, and has produced over 100 albums.
Best TV Programme Curb Your Enthusiasm
Best thing about this year Getting over my fear of gigging.
Hope for next year To get another record out.
What tickled your funny bone A reviewer’s comment that my hair looked like it had been hacked by a crazed 8-year-old. That made my day.
Cathy Davey

Hot Press - The Year Of The Cathy - August 13 2004
After all the hype and a certain number of raised eyebrows, Cathy Davey is finally ready to go on record. Just don’t ask her about ‘paying her dues’.
Finally, the near-perfect demos that were the stuff of wonderment within Ireland’s A&R community have finally metamorphosed into a fully fledged album. In short, it’s finally time for Cathy Davey to be unleashed onto the listening world.
At the moment, Davey is gearing up for her first proper bout of promotional work ahead of the release of Something Ilk. Although a relative newcomer, she takes to the prospect with plenty of relish and surprisingly few nerves. As we sit in the Today FM offices, ahead of the recording of her first Pet Sounds session, I ask Davey whether she is finding the press a chore yet.
“Put it this way, I’d rather be in bed,” she offers with a laugh. “It’s alright, it’s not as bad as I thought it would be. I thought I wouldn’t be able to hear words properly or not be able to talk with words in succession like normal people.”
So she hasn’t yet arrived at the point where she’s getting bored talking about herself?
“Yeah…you don’t want to be saying
the same thing all the time, but then again you only have a certain
amount of answers,” she muses.
As Davey readies herself to record in the Today FM studio, it is striking to see how she approaches the performance with such confidence and aplomb. With bassist Simon Jones (ex-The Verve, pop pickers!) and keyboardist Diane Gutkind in tow, the performance itself is startling. Effectively showcasing the effortlessness with which she approaches her craft, it soon becomes apparent that her endearingly quirky voice is her true trump card.
With that in mind, it strikes me as odd that Davey didn’t take to the live circuit to become a word-of-mouth favourite. Instead, Cathy has spent the months after signing her lucrative deal with EMI writing and recording at home, away from the glare of the local music scene. Apart from a few appearances on Autamata’s stage, Davey has played a mere handful of Irish shows.
I ask her if she feels she’s subject to criticism for this.
“What, because I haven’t ‘paid my dues’?” she says, her eyes rolling.
Ouch. Seems this might not be quite the first time she’s heard this.
‘My thing is recording,” she says, wearily. “I’ve been recording at home. I’ve put everything that other people have put into going to bars and gigging and seeing bands, I’ve put that energy into recording, and that’s how I’ve paid my dues. I have done singer-songwriter nights, and I’ve toured my ass off in the dingiest clubs in the UK. My band is over there and it’s cheaper to do it over there.”
It all sounds vaguely similar to the case of Davey’s EMI stablemates The Thrills, who were subjected to something of a critical roasting because they deemed it appropriate to jumpstart their careers outside of Ireland.
“Yeah, like they didn’t grow up in town, drinking in Whelan’s,” she muses. “I can sense the sentiment, although I haven’t physically heard any one say anything. I can see why people would be like, ‘What’s wrong with Ireland?’ No doubt the same will be said about me.”
For some bands, wanting success outside of Ireland seems to be verboten, I argue.
“I’ve heard that already about me,” she agrees. “(Mimicking) ‘She’s got a big record deal and she’s shite…she thinks she’s great’. Yeah I got a deal, but it doesn’t make my record any better. It doesn’t guarantee success. It means I could get dropped next year. They could build me up one year and then go, ‘Ha ha, you’re down again’, the next. What the fuck does it matter at the end of the day? Dublin is quite a hard place to be in that sense…if someone is doing well, people seem to get jealous. I haven’t heard anything yet, not to my face…but then again my album isn’t out yet.”
If anything, the sometimes cut-throat nature of the Irish music scene has taught her a few valuable lessons.
“I think it’s the nature of the beast,” she concludes. “Doing music is such a personal thing. If you see someone that you think you’re better than, and they’re getting up the ladder, it’s such a personal insult. You have to protect yourself by saying they’re shit…in a way, that’s your shield. I’ve done the same…believe me, I’m not above it all. Having had stuff said about me, I wouldn’t do it again. I would always think twice before I shoot someone down before I heard them.”
Still, it’s doubtful that Davey will have to worry about the ‘build-them-up-knock-‘em-down’ tendencies of the music industry anytime soon. Already, the A&R fever that ensued after Davey passed around a handful of demo tapes has become the stuff of legend.
“I was really surprised because I hadn’t played, and all (the labels) had were these tapes,” she says with a little awe. “It was almost like a secret that was being passed around.”
It must have been pretty surreal, knowing that something big was about to happen, career-wise…
“It was only real for 90% of it,” she recalls. “Basically, there were a few companies in the running who were genuine and they wanted to be true to their word. It was all really exciting for me because I felt I was actually going to get an album out, which is all that mattered. I still could have gotten the album out without a deal.”
She seems mindful of the ‘emperor’s-new-clothes’ potential in such a situation.
“The more good things that are said about something that no-one has heard, the worse people will be let down when they hear it,” she reasons.
You would think that, with the ink drying on said record deal, the pressure to deliver an appropriate opus would be immense.
“No more so than anyone else would,” she says. “It didn’t add pressure, the only pressure added was from within, but everyone goes through that. As for people thinking I came and had three songs and got signed and never played gigs, it’s bollocks and it’s not the way it works. Any artist knows that’s not the way things happen.”
While Something Ilk is a resoundingly mellow work, Davey has taken it upon herself to return to her rock roots.
“At the moment, I’m trying to listen to The Concretes,” she informs me. “I’m also listening to The Beach Boys, Billy Childish and the Pixies ’cos I recently saw them in London. I bought some AC/DC, and I’m going back to Guns n’ Roses. Because I’ve been listening to mellow stuff of late, I’m forgetting my roots. I have to get back to the rock if only for the silliness factor, and get away from the whimsical stuff. I need a bit of Hendrix!”
Ah-ha…Davey may be an exalted figure within the hallowed portals of Today FM, but it seems that, like every Irish teenager worth their salt, she went through her obligatory hard rock phase.
“I was in Bruxelles a lot,” she recalls with a laugh. “I was into Guns n’ Roses, but then I got into An Emotional Fish, Revelino and Something Happens.”
Amazingly, ardent rock fandom didn’t come naturally to young Davey.
“I was into what my friends were into, just so we would have something in common,” she admits. “Sounds awful, but I was like a headless chicken and I had no idea. I wasn’t drawn to anything at all which is why I spent so much time on my own writing songs.
“I got into the rock stuff that way, and I got into dance music and baggy through friends when I was 13. Then friends introduced me to live music and I sort of got into that of my own accord. It wasn’t until I was 16 that I discovered there were things about music you could like on your own, not because your friends like it.”
Davey’s first gig, she recalls, “was probably An Emotional Fish. I wanted to go to Metallica but my mum was too scared I’d brain damage myself! I think I saw An Emotional Fish with The Stunning on St. Stephen’s Green.”
With that, it’s time for her to be interviewed by Tom Dunne, and she takes to the interview with the ease and naturalness of a hardened veteran. The good news? She’s just as accomplished, if not more so, at her live performances. Hers is the sound of the new dawn, and Ireland couldn’t wish for a better sound on the alarm clock…
Something Ilk is out now on EMI
HOW HAVE OTHER IRISH ACTS FARED ON MAJOR LABELS?
Halite
When former Therapy? drummer Graham Hopkins decided to front his own rock outfit, Warner Music Ireland was a natural choice for Halite (formerly Hopper). Not only was pal David Kitt on the Warner Roster; he could also count his good friends in the Red Hot Chili Peppers as labelmates. Earlier this year, after the release of Head On, Hopkins split from the label following the departure of his A&R manager Janet Kingston. At the moment, Halite (who are now a foursome) are shopping for a new label deal.
Snow Patrol
Although regarded by some as relative newcomers, Snow Patrol have actually been toiling for several years, and were signed to English indie label Jeepster in 1999. According to frontman Gary Lightbody, both band and label didn’t quite see eye to eye. When shopping for a new label in 2003, they found an unlikely spiritual home at Polydor, within the Universal Group. Upon signing, Snow Patrol released the accomplished and more polished album Final Straw, and both the comparisons to Coldplay and critical plaudits soon flooded the camp. Needless to say, commercial success soon followed.
The Thrills
Formerly known as the Cheating Housewives (or before that, The Legal Eagles or Freelance), the Fox-rockers were dropped by Dublin indie label Supremo in 2001, without so much as an EP release. Close to packing it in, they resolved to carry on and launched into five or six days of rehearsing and writing a week. The fruits of their labours brought them to the attention of Alan Cullivan, who left Lakota Records to manage the band. Although it looked like Rough Trade records would emerge triumphant in the A&R race, The Thrills eventually signed to Virgin, a label from the EMI Group. As we all know, a Mercury nomination, a support slot with the Stones and world domination ensued.
Paddy Casey
Paddy Casey’s debut album, Amen (So Be It), released on Sony Records in 1999, went double platinum upon its release, shooting the young singer-songwriter into the stratosphere. Shortly after the release of his debut however, Casey embarked on a self-imposed exile of sorts. Four years later, Casey’s second album Living emerged and went straight to Number One in the Irish album charts. With the help of Sony, Casey has re-established himself as a major musical force to be reckoned with, and upcoming later this year are two sold-out live shows at the Olympia.
Tanya Sweeney

Cherwell.org - Chatting up Cathy Davey
Cherwell Online: Friday 22nd October 2004
What are your earliest memories of music? The Muppet Show! We had an old dodgy record player in a room that no one used so I went up there with my sister. We also had some Simon and Garfunkel which we would use to mime to and put on concerts!
Who influenced the sound of the album? There aren’t many, as I didn’t have the money to buy records! I had a Tom Waits CD that I really loved. Elliott Smith was a big one, as well as people like Burt Bacharach. I had a really small, strange collection of stuff. I didn’t necessarily want to write like any of them, but they’re all on the album in their own way.
How did working with Elbow come about? We were recording in the same studio, and we got drunk together! Guy [Garvey, Elbow frontman] got his eight-track out and played me this song ‘Grace Under Pressure’ and I sang on it through this crappy mic. Then in return, he sang backing vocals on four songs from my album.
Is touring glamorous? It can be, people who’ve had dreams of touring when they were younger can turn it into a giant party, but the thought of going on tour this time last year kept me up all night terrified. The whole vulnerability that comes with being away is really strange. It’s a completely different way of life that can make you feel quite insecure. If you’re a really hardcore drinking band it can be f**king cool, but I find it too stressful.
Do you still get the fear when you first go on stage? Yeah, definitely. If you’re playing support, the crowds are often a lot harder to please, particularly if you have a different sound to the headliners. They can be f**king scary!
What’s the best gig you’ve ever been to? I went to see Billy Childish [punk legend] play recently who was wonderful. He’s written literally hundreds of albums, its so inspiring to see him, as he’s so raw as he refuses to use any technology whatsoever. Definitely worth checking him out.
What are you reading at the moment? I’m really getting into Paul Auster and I’m reading Leviathan right now. But I read about four books at once. And this [Bill Bryson’s A Short History of Nearly Everything] as well, which is really embarrassing because my head is full of these really amazing facts from the book and in the middle of a conversation I’ll start up, ‘Did you know…’ and bore everyone to tears.
Let’s have a fact then… There’s one that’s really good, scientists have found the bones of the oldest woolly mammoth yet, and the Latin name they’ve given it means ‘nipple teeth’.
Cathy Davey’s debut album Something Ilk is out now on Regal.
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